I had never even heard of CineStill 800T film until a couple of weeks ago when a Fuji X Weekly reader asked if I could help him develop a film simulation recipe that mimics the look of it. This film didn’t exist back in the days when I shot a lot of film. Even though companies like Fujifilm are slowly discontinuing some of their 35mm films, other companies have been introducing new ones. CineStill 800T falls into the latter category, as CineStill has only been around since 2012.
CineStill 800T is Kodak Vision3 500T motion picture film that’s been modified for use in 35mm film cameras and development using the C-41 process. It has a “cinema” look, which means that it doesn’t have a lot of contrast or color saturation, as motion picture film is rarely as punchy as most still picture films are. The “T” in the name means tungsten, which is a fancy way of saying that it is not white balanced for daylight (typically 5500K) but for artificial light (3200K). Even though the unmodified film is rated at ISO 500, the modified version is rated at ISO 800.
I searched the web up and down looking for photographs captured with this film to get a good idea of what it looks like. I’ve never used it myself, so I don’t have any firsthand knowledge of what the aesthetics are. I hope to someday try CineStill 800T, but I have probably 25 rolls of unused 35mm film that I’m looking at right now, and in 2017 I shot a grand total of three rolls. So far in 2018 I’m at zero. I just don’t shoot all that much film anymore, especially after purchasing the Fujifilm X100F.
I discovered that CineStill 800T is an excellent high-ISO color film. The options for good quality high-ISO color film are very slim as most color film that’s ISO 800 and higher look especially bad. There are a few good choices, all of which I believe have been discontinued over the last several years. CineStill 800T definitely looks like one that I would have used if it had been around 15-20 years ago. It seems as though that it is mostly being used for portraits under artificial light and after-sunset street photography, although there are plenty of examples of it being used in other situations.
Where Was Your Head That Day? – Farmington, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
The issues with nailing down some good settings to mimic the look of this film (particularly in light of the fact that I’ve never used it) are that, when looking at an image online, I don’t know how much the process of scanning the image has changed the look of it, I don’t know what was done post-scanning to adjust it (if anything), and if filters were used during exposure to change the white balance (a common film practice). Some people provided good notes with their pictures, and this helped tremendously, but most did not, and so I was left guessing. Despite these shortcomings, I think I was able to get a look that’s pretty close to CineStill 800T. It might not be 100% exact, but I believe it to be close enough that you could probably convince some people that you used the film instead of your digital camera.
Initially I was just doing this recipe to help out a reader and for the challenge of it, but I’m pretty happy with the results and I might continue using it occasionally in the right situations. It’s not something that I’d want to use all of the time, but in the right moments it looks quite nice. It has an analog feel and certainly a different “look” than what most people are creating with their X100F. I simulated using three rolls of 36 exposure film to get the pictures seen in this article.
PRO Neg. Std
Dynamic Range: DR200
Highlight: +3 (+2 when there is a bright light source in the image)
Shadow: +1
Color: -1
Noise Reduction: -3
Sharpening: +1
Grain Effect: Strong
White Balance: 3200K
ISO: Auto up to ISO 6400
Exposure Compensation: 0 to +1/3 (typically)
Example photos, all camera-made JPEGs, using my CineStill 800T Film Simulation recipe:
Pavilion Roof – Layton, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Watering Days – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Blue Bird – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Jets – Layton, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Red & White Floral – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
New Bloom – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
White Spring Blossoms – Layton, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Blinding Blue – S. Weber, UT – Fuji X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Jon Laughing – S. Weber, UT – Fuji X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Spoonful of Sugar – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
City Intersection – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Moving Trax – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Down Main Street – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Inside Looking Out – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Anxious To Cross – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Hospital Nights – SLC, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Hamburgers – Farmington, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Red Circle – Farmington, UT – Fuji X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Lamp Post – Farmington, UT – Fuji X100F – “CineStill 800T”
Max Illumination – South Weber, UT – Fujifilm X100F – “CineStill 800T”
See also: My Fujifilm X100F Fujicolor 800 Superia Film Simulation Recipe
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You are my hero, big thank you,
You are welcome!
Cold thing! Trying it just now. I think it would be nice in winter
I think you might be right.
have you tried to do kodak gold 200?
I haven’t tried it yet, but it is on my to-do list.
Great work! But what about Cinestill 50D? 🙂
Thanks! That would be a good one to try sometime.
Great! How do you remember which preset is which and what WB you need to add to each one when you selct it?
I simply remember, but, if you are using an X-Trans III camera where you can custom name the quick recall presets, you can add the white balance shift into the name. Unfortunately, you can’t do that with the X100F.
great tips! Thank you.
You are welcome!
i love it.
how can i add orange for the highlight and teal for the shadow ? i hope their is a way
Thanks! I’m not really sure how to do that, but if I discover it I will be sure to share.
Have you ever considered trying to replicate Kodak motion picture film like Vision 3 250 daylight film? Kodak has a great demonstration film showing the film stock in various situations.
https://www.kodak.com/id/en/motion/Products/Production/5207/default.htm
I have not, but I will take a look at the link and consider what I can do. Thank you for the suggestion!
That would be very cool. You have an amazing eye for color and contrast! And these Fuji cameras are like having an Arriflex the size of a paperback book around your neck. Couple that with your film simulations, and we can all feel like Spielberg or Kubrick, if only for a moment…
Yes, it may only be for a moment, but at least the moment happened. I appreciate the comment!
I love your receipts but ı have xpro1. Do u have any for xpro1 or xt10
My XF10 recipes are (mostly) compatible with X-Trans I and II cameras, but I have not developed any recipes for those cameras. Sorry.
https://fujixweekly.com/2018/09/30/my-fujifilm-xf10-film-simulation-recipes/
Big fan of your film recipies. Just wondering, was this recipe meant to be used with the WB shift on R0 B0? or would a WB Shift improve it?
Thank you! The white balance shift is meant to be 0 Red and 0 Blue.
I love this film, going to try this out as soon as I get home. Thank you so much!!
You are welcome! Let me know what you think.
Love the results, thank you! Do you think you would change anything on this recipe for X-Trans VI?
I’d leave it as it is, or at least that’s what I do on my X-T30.
Sorry, meant to say X-Trans IV.
I have a question RR.
In this photo, what is orange something like a smoke?
Are you talking about the picture called “Inside Looking Out”? If so, that’s just a window reflection.
Please tell me the “red and white floral” original name of the deco flowers. I didn’t see these in 40 years. Thank you so much for the great work on the recipes and sharing your vast knowledge about films.
Oh, I’m not sure what they are called. I picked it up at Pike Place Market in Seattle.
Just found out it’s called Silver Dollar Plant
Thanks for sharing your efforts. This may have been mentioned but…
Your simulations could be more enticing IF we could see a side by side comparison with a standard vanilla setting.
This in no way diminishes your work, in fact it emphasizes it
I appreciate the suggestion! I think that could be helpful for trying to convince someone who doesn’t use recipes why the recipe is better than using default settings, but I’m not sure how that’s helpful for someone who already knows that the default settings are mediocre. Would comparisons between different recipes be more helpful? For example, a comparison of all Tungsten/night recipes? Thanks for your feedback!
Hi
Thanks for responding open mindedly.
I think both, your idea and mine, have benefits.
It’s not whether or not they’re mediocre! ( Bit harsh!) but with comparisons I think you can get more insight into the results.
Thanks again
I appreciate your feedback! Thanks for replying!