Fujifilm said WHAT?!

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PetaPixel published a couple of articles recently detailing an interview with Fujifilm at CP+. Phototrend also interviewed Fujifilm at this event, which resulted in some interesting answers. PetaPixel’s conversation was much different, so let’s talk about what was said and what it means.

For one article, PetaPixel asked, “How will Fujifilm fix its video autofocus woes?” Fujifilm answered, “There are two improvements we can make, one based on the algorithm and then one based on the device itself. So we have the fifth-generation device now, and so to make an improvement here, we just need to improve the algorithm. That’s the maximum we can do.”

The basic takeaway from the interview is that for fifth-generation cameras, which are the current models, Fujifilm is working on potential firmware updates for autofocus improvement. My guess is that they are taking their time to ensure there are no issues. They want to avoid something like a couple of years ago when the firmware update had a significant AF bug. Maybe this update will be released soon or maybe it will never see the light of day, who knows? Fujifilm did say, though, that they are actively working on it. Also, they are planning to improve autofocus through hardware (think faster readouts, quicker processing, increased memory buffers, better heat dispersion, etc.), which will benefit sixth-generation cameras, which will be here before you know it.

I’m really tired of talking about Fujifilm’s autofocus. For the majority of the last 10 years, this wasn’t a top topic within the community. It’s really only over the last few years that it’s become a big deal, and I find that very odd and quite telling. I’ve discussed this all at length numerous times, so I want to avoid rehashing everything, but some things need to be re-said, I suppose. I’m sure you’ve seen the hyperbolic, troll-like statements that flood the comments section of any article or video even slightly related to this topic.

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It’s important to keep expectations realistic. Let’s ground ourselves in reality. The Canikony brands had a major head start in developing AF (going back to the 1970’s), have a much larger R&D budget, can better attract the best and most experienced experts in the field, and have put the majority of their eggs in the AF basket, ignoring image quality improvements or even sometimes to the detriment of IQ (as reported by PetaPixel). Those who expect Fujifilm to have “class leading” autofocus, or at least to have it be on par with the big three camera makers, are living in a fantasy land. It’s not going to happen outside of a major paradigm shift (perhaps AI is that paradigm shift). When you buy a Fujifilm camera, it’s important to know that it’s not going to have AF as good as the Canikony brands—that should be your expectation, because it’s the truth, and it only makes sense if you think about it for a mere moment.

That doesn’t mean Fujifilm’s autofocus is bad. Of course it isn’t bad! If you were to take the lowest-end, bottom-rung, entry-level X-M5, which costs only $900, and hop into your DeLorean, blast some Huey Lewis, go back in time 10 years, and show people that this is what Fujifilm’s autofocus will be in a decade, the camera would impress a whole lot of people. The community would be all excited for the eventual autofocus performance that the X-M5 demonstrated. Hurray for Fujifilm’s future AF! For some reason, the perspective that a lot of people who complain about Fujifilm’s autofocus seem to have is that photography has only been around for a few years. Do we not remember autofocus from any brand 20 years ago? 30? 50? I guess we don’t, because we lack an appreciation for how incredibly awesome even so-called “bad” autofocus is today. That AF system that you call garbage can run circles around the best AF from not terribly long ago, and yet our photography and cinematography isn’t any better than it was back then. I think a lot of people just don’t appreciate how good they have it today.

With that said, there is certainly room for Fujifilm to improve autofocus. I think all of the Canikony brands have reached a point of diminishing returns. They are quickly approaching, are at, or are maybe just beyond the peak of an inverted U-curve. The practical benefit of an AF improvement from (say) Sony helps a tiny fraction of their customers, while for 99.99%, the AF capabilities are already beyond what they need. Now for Fujifilm, who isn’t quite as far along, an AF improvement might have a practical benefit for (say) 15% of their customers, and maybe the next improvement benefits 12%, perhaps 7% for the following one, and so forth, as they climb the inverted-U. They are working on this right now. For the majority of people, though, Fujifilm’s AF is already plenty good enough for most subjects and situations.

Fujifilm’s autofocus is nowhere near as bad as some on the internet would have you believe—not even close—but there is something that Fujifilm could do that would have an immediate major impact on this perception: intuitiveness. It took me awhile to figure out that this is likely the number one issue. People apparently want to take their camera out of the box, throw in a freshly charged battery, and shoot amazing pictures, without ever setting it up. Some of this might be explained by beginners who just purchased their first camera, but I believe the majority are not beginners. In fact, I think (quite ironically) that most are the same people who would tell you that you must shoot RAW, and only amateurs shoot JPEGs. Perhaps this is because those who use Film Simulations and Recipes are constantly in their camera’s menu, so making adjustments and customizations is normal and no big deal. Whatever the reason, there are those who just want the AF to “work” without setting any of it up first. So if Fujifilm were to make a major stride in how intuitive their AF is without improving any other aspect, it would be seen as a big upgrade.

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Fujifilm allows you to customize how autofocus works on your camera; however, I think a lot of people don’t realize that not only can they do this, but they’re expected to do so. Even if someone does realize, they probably don’t know how, or what the most ideal settings are for their use case. This is something Fujifilm could have done a much better job communicating to their customers; sadly, in recent times when they have tried, they were heavily mocked for doing so. Far too often, people would rather blame something else than take any sort of responsibility for a failure. Telling people that they’re the problem is never well received. But the truth is that those who complain about Fujifilm’s AF have the power to fix most—if not all—of their woes, and they’ve had this power the whole time. An example of this is Camera Conspiracies, who constantly mocked Fujifilm’s AF until he figured out the right settings for his needs. I think there are merits to Fujifilm’s approach, but either they need to do a much better job getting the word out on how to best use their system, or they need to make it work well for everyone—no matter someone’s individual needs—as factory-default settings.

In the next PetaPixel article, Fujifilm stated, “What we want to do as a company is make sure the photography culture remains for the foreseeable future. If we don’t continue to offer something exciting, fun for the users, then people won’t be really interested in photography itself. That would be a nightmare for us, we believe photography is such an important part of everyone’s lives. We think that’s our mission, to make sure everybody understands and knows that if they ever want to try something related to photography, we’d be there to offer as many options as possible.”

I find that fascinating. If camera makers don’t offer exciting and fun-to-use gear, photography itself is in jeopardy, says Fujifilm. And that makes sense. If the pros and hobbyists get burned out because photography is no longer enjoyable, they’ll quit. If potential newcomers are satisfied with their cellphones and AI-generated images, and no “real” camera seems interesting or fun to them, they’ll never even explore photography in the first place. It’s possible that cameras like the X100VI, X half, X-E5, and GFX100RF are actually saving photography, and are not just gear existing within the industry. It’s interesting to think about, and maybe something that other camera makers should pay more attention to.

This article is already longer than I wanted it to be, so let me wrap this up real quick. The way these two topics relate is that Fujifilm could make a variety of the most exciting gear ever released, but if a bunch of trolls and Negative Nancies (my apologies to anyone named Nancy) complain about it, will those products actually save photography? Maybe, maybe not. I think it’s important for Fujifilm to address the first topic aggressively—not because their AF is bad, but because people can’t accept that it is good just because it isn’t quite as good as the Canikony brands (which apparently makes it trash). Fujifilm’s two options are to better communicate how to best use their AF, or to make it more intuitive and work better out-of-the-box at factory-default settings. The latter is the path that will be best received. The firmware and hardware refinements that Fujifilm mentioned to PetaPixel I’m sure will be welcomed and appreciated, but it doesn’t address what I think is the largest problem, which is intuitiveness. Once fixed, when the fun gear is announced, there will be fewer negative comments that unfairly scare away potential buyers. Or maybe trolls will be trolls, and none of it matters.

10 comments

  1. Don · 6 Days Ago

    I’ve been wondering what the nay sayers of Fujifilm autofocus base their findings on? Could it be the XT-1 with the original 35mm 1.4, or the original 56mm 1.2? Back in 2015? Because my XT-5 with autofocus custom set with the XF23mm 1.4 LM WR is how fast? Well, it’s there. Yet, fast enough for what? I expect to see Nikons with long lenses at a soccer game. I understand that my choices are the right ones for what I do.

    • Ritchie Roesch · 3 Days Ago

      I did see a couple of comments like, “I had an X-E2 and the autofocus was terrible so I left Fujifilm, and won’t return until they fix AF!” There was a pretty significant improvement in AF between X-Trans II and X-Trans III, particularly in low-light situations. Compare the X-E2 to the X-E5, and it is very significant, a very noticeable improvement over time. If someone’s perception is that the current AF is still the same as 12 or more years ago, that’s really far from reality. I think it’s a good demonstration of how far it’s come, how much better it is, and that many of the complaints are hyperbolic.

  2. Chottobaka · 6 Days Ago

    Old school Fuji shooters could easily live with the hinky AF due to the way most used the gear — focus and recompose.

    The expectations have changed due to Fuji adding AF features (that didn’t work effectively) and prices that increased substantially. Both factors compounded by an incompetent new breed of Fuji users who want and need nanny AF.

    I’ve got issues with a decline in build, QC and country of origin that have pushed me closer to jumping ship and choosing a different system. AF isn’t one of the reasons for me probably moving on from Fuji.

    • Ritchie Roesch · 3 Days Ago

      I don’t agree with the declining build quality statement, or QC issues. For example, the X-E5 clearly has much better build quality over any previous iteration, especially the X-E4. I don’t see any build quality difference between my X-T5 and X-T4. Build quality can fluctuate from model-to-model when comparing one generation to the others, but it fluctuates both directions, just depending on the priorities of that particular model. As far as QC, there was a very limited run of the X-E5 that had faulty strap mounts (which Fujifilm fixed), but that affected only a very small number of people. The X-T1 had the rubber grip glue issue. The X-Pro3 had the faulty cable, but I consider that poor design over a QC issue per se. So I think those two “issues” are more imaginary than anything else, they certainly aren’t any different than what one might experience from every single other brand. In other words, Fujifilm has a pretty good track record, and you’ll be hard pressed to find a better situation within the industry. Good luck if you do, and be sure to report back what brand that is.

      As far as some manufacturing moving to China, it reminds me of Back to the Future Part 2, when Doc says, “No wonder why this circuit failed, it says, ‘Made in Japan.'” And Marty replies, “What are you talking about Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan.” In a way, China is today’s 1980’s Japan. But I can certainly understand the ethical reasons why one might object. I believe the main reason why Fujifilm moved more of their manufacturing to China is because China is now their top market, even greater than America. But the positive of the tariffs is that Fujifilm moved production of some USA-bound products back to Japan.

  3. Mark C · 6 Days Ago

    I am one of those Nikon users who switched to Fuji, then switched back to Nikon. I loved my Fuji XT-3, it is a work of art. I loved the color science, I loved the film simulations, but I felt the camera did not meet my expectations for AF. I was just so used to my Nikon locking on fast and getting many keepers. I don’t think for a second, the Fuji was bad, just not as good as my Nikon. I also think a big part of it was I had been shooting Nikon for 30+/- years as was used to and comfortable with Nikons AF. I think if I had started with the Fuji, the AF would have been more than adequate. Perhaps I could have spent more time learning the Fuji, but I, like many, are creatures of habit and are more comfortable with what they are used to.
    I feel like I’ve written something like this before here, maybe I have. There’s nothing wrong with Fujifilm’s AF, there’s just people who like to bash anything that isn’t what they like and use. I really wish we could get past this at some point so you can do what you do best, create film recipes, and make great photos, and not have to spend time here on fujiweekly, defending some really great cameras.
    At some point, I will probably get another Fujifilm camera. But right now I’m not Bill Gates so I have to still watch my dollars.

    • Ritchie Roesch · 3 Days Ago

      I appreciate it. I think the “what one is used to” statement can apply to many different things. For example, why some prefer PASM and why some don’t, often comes down to “what I’m used to” and there is nothing wrong with that. It’s about what works for someone, and if they’re happy with that—awesome! If they are dissatisfied or feel that something different might be beneficial, there’s always an opportunity to try (as long as the budget allows). Thanks for commenting!

  4. Taigen · 6 Days Ago

    Who remembers when saying, ‘a bad workman blames his tools,’ used to end most arguments?

    • Ritchie Roesch · 3 Days Ago

      It’s very true. I would also add that those who are out there creating great things aren’t spending much time trying to be keyboard warriors, either. So these “bad workmen” appear to be more of a majority than they actually are.

  5. Hans Florent · 5 Days Ago

    Ich kann mich der Auffassung von Ritchie nur anschließen. Es muss Fuji endlich einleuchten, dass der Autofokus mit der Basiseinstellung nach dem Auspacken und Einschalten einer neuen Kamera sofort optimal funktionieren muss. Es kann nicht richtig sein, dass man erst in die Tiefen des Systems einsteigen muss, um das Optimale des Möglichen zu erreichen. Die die erfahren sind und noch mehr am Autofokus verbessern und und wollen, können sich damit dann intensiv beschäftigen. Die das nicht möchten, wissen aber dann zumindest, dass die Grundeinstellung ausreicht, um alles Genres abzudecken. Außerdem kommt es meines Erachtens auch auf die Kamera an. Ich habe z.B. mit meiner X- H 2 s alles eingefangen bekommen, was ich wollte. Tennis mit Serienbildaufnahmen exzellent und auch Aufnahmen mit Tieren, auch Vögeln kein Problem. Wenn ich das professionell und somit beruflich machen muss, also damit Geld verdienen, dann hole ich mir eine Kamera eines anderen Herstellers. Ich kann, bis auf die Software – Verschlimmbesserung von Fuji nur sagen, dass ich zufrieden bin. Selbst die alte Gfx 50 s reicht mir oft aus. Ich stamme aber noch aus der Zeit, wo man erst wußte was aus dem Bild geworden ist, wenn man das Bild nach dem Entwickeln des Filmes, in den Händen hielt. Erst dann wußte man ob das Bild scharf war. Ich finde man sollte sich dessen bewusst sein.
    Hans

    • Ritchie Roesch · 3 Days Ago

      I think there are merits (pros and cons) to either approach, and I don’t think that Fujifilm should do something just because all of the other brands are. For example, I wouldn’t want Fujifilm to abandon the traditional tactile controls just because all the other brands are full-in on PASM. With that said, the quickest and easiest way to quiet the complainers is to program the camera’s AF to work better straight-out-of-the-box with how most of the complainers would want it to. Maybe the solution is to have a three question survey at initial startup that then uses those answers to set the AF in a way that will most likely be appreciated by those users. Or something else along those lines. The more simple/intuitive it can be made, the better for those who don’t or won’t go into the menu to customize their experience.

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